Desert Living Now
Ripples of Inclusion: Carrie M. Sawyer on Transforming Curiosity Into Action
In a time when many organizations are looking to deepen their commitment to diversity, equity, and inclusion, the path from "wanting to help" to "taking action" can often feel daunting. This week, NBC Palm Springs welcomed international bestselling author and human-centered design expert Carrie M. Sawyer to discuss her latest book, "Ripples of Inclusion," and how it serves as a roadmap for modern advocates.
Sawyer, who brings over 20 years of experience to the table, emphasizes that the journey toward a more inclusive society begins with a simple, yet brave, premise: it is okay to not have all the answers.
The Power of the Question
The foundation of "Ripples of Inclusion" is built upon the real-world inquiries of 700 people from across the United States. Sawyer found that while many individuals have a fundamental desire to create a better world, they are often paralyzed by a fear of appearing uninformed.
"Sometimes we feel like we have to know everything and we feel kind of like dumb and intimidated when we don't," Sawyer explained. "This book is based on 700 people who asked the question and were brave enough to come out of their shell and out of their fear to say, 'Hey, you know what? I don't know about this thing and I want to.'"
Her research revealed a significant gap in understanding regarding how racism and exclusion manifest in daily life. By meeting people exactly where they are, Sawyer aims to provide a "simple and easy" entry point to dismantling systemic issues and restoring lost human connections.
Six Steps to Allyship
While the book outlines six specific strategies for effective allyship, Sawyer highlights one as the most critical: the willingness to interrupt.
Meaningful change happens in the small moments—the "ripples"—where an individual chooses to lean in rather than look away. According to Sawyer, interrupting can take many forms:
Asking for Clarification: "I don't actually understand why that joke is funny."
Raising Your Voice: Speaking up when someone is being excluded from a conversation.
Choosing Silence: Intentionally stepping back to allow other voices to lead.
Direct Intervention: Challenging why certain people aren't invited to the table.
"We have so much power in this world to make things better to create that connection," Sawyer said. "It always starts with us in our own intention and our own unwillingness to lean in and do better."
Empowering the Next Generation of Advocates
Sawyer’s approach is rooted in human-centered design, a discipline that prioritizes empathy and compassion. By focusing on the "human experience" rather than just policy, her work helps allies move past the "curiosity" phase and into a space of active, daily advocacy.
For those looking to learn more about the book, her upcoming speaking engagements, or DEIB (Diversity, Equity, Inclusion, and Belonging) strategies for the workplace, Sawyer encourages visitors to connect through her digital platform.
"It’s about helping people make those connections where that connection is lost," Sawyer noted.
Explore NBCPalmSprings.com, where we are connecting the valley.
By: NBC Palm Springs
May 8, 2026

Latest Instagram Posts
Social Time with Thalia & Jerry
What do you think is really going on here? Drop your thoughts below 👇 #therogginreport #coachella #coachellavalley #localnews #nbcpalmsprings
During the 2025-2026 school year, PEN America reported there were nearly 12,000 book bans in public schools nationwide, the largest number of book bans in a single year since the group started tracking numbers in 2021.
Delta Airlines overhauled its frequent flyer program in 2024. CNN’s Randi Kaye asks Delta CEO Ed Bastian if the airline has made it more difficult for flyers to earn status and if any further changes to the loyalty program are on the horizon.
Social Time with Thalia & Jerry. Favorite Festival?
‘The Hayden’ is back @babysmarche !! John Hayden himself took a trip to the Indian Wells staple for lunch and to chat with @chefjustinsnyder on how it became the most popular item on the menu! #TheHayden
🛑A bike ride ended in tragedy Monday night in Palm Springs. A bicyclist died after being struck by a car around 8:30 PM on E. Palm Canyon Dr. The driver stayed at the scene and police say there’s no indication of foul play or impairment. ❓Saw the crash or have video from the area? Call Palm Springs police at (760) 327–1441.
Social Time: Jerry sings the end! 🎶🎵
CALIFORNIA IS AGING FAST... BUT WHERE WILL THE WORKFORCE LIVE? #therogginreport #coachellavalley #localnews #agingpopulation #nbcpalmsprings
119 jobs on the line and DRD’s General Manager won’t answer questions … Drop a comment 👇: Would you vote YES or NO on giving a district more money if they refuse to answer transparency questions? #therogginreport #drd #coachellavalley #localnews #nbcpalmsprings
